janet_harvey ([info]janet_harvey) wrote,
@ 2007-05-09 18:08:00
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Current music:"La Vida Es Un Sueno" - Mark Ribot

Viva Los Cubanos Prostizos!
I haven't been keeping up with my NYC club closings as of late but this made me smile:

After Tonic, a plea to aid music scene
BY JUSTIN ROCKET SILVERMAN
April 18, 2007


"Ribot and another musician were arrested at a demonstration Saturday at the 9-year-old Tonic on Norfolk Street when they refused to stop playing and vacate the stage. The club had officially closed the night before, and workers were dismantling the stage as Ribot played."

Ok well, they didn't mention the other musician was the awesome Rebecca Moore, but still. Check out Ribot's wonderfully articulate interview in NY Magazine, too:



So do you see a future Tonic as subsidized or even city-owned?
A lot of musicians are basically libertarian in their outlook and opposed to subsidies. The irony is, though, that the golden era of private club ownership was subsidized in a half-dozen ways. For example, CBGB existed in the context of stabilized rents, and the record labels that — imagine — used to invest in less-commercial acts to improve their reputation. These subsidies are now drying up. I couldn't afford to do any of my bands just in New York. The real venue for jazz and experimental music is European touring, where rooms are provided rent-free by the city or region... We have to ask why the community is in crisis structurally.

Why is it?
The discrepancy in funding for different forms of music in the city. Why does the Lincoln Center get $75 million for renovation? The opera is not New York's contribution to the world culture. CBGB, and Tonic, is. If Europeans want to hear Mozart, there are great orchestras in Salzburg and Vienna. But, on any given night, New York jazz and avant-garde musicians are playing in every city in the world. This is important economically. It's a major factor in tourism. People come to New York to hear these musicians in their natural habitat. There needs to be that habitat.



It looks like CB's, the Cocteau Theater and the wonderful alt.coffee are all gone, as well. So sad - especially about our friends at alt.coffee who took such good care of us when we were shooting up the street at Accidental CDs (which is also gone). Manhattan continues its slow march toward becoming a pedestrian park for lawyers. I hope all those sterile "investment properties" are worth living in when there's no culture left.




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Oh, goddammit
[info]daveroguesf
2007-05-10 04:02 am UTC (link)
I had no idea this had happened. Huge kudoes to Moore and Ribot for playing until The Man had to drag them off.

And you're right - that's a great interview. Ribot's politics are as sharp as his guitar playing.

Only ever saw one gig at Tonic - Sylvie Courvoisier and Tim Berne - but the music of the downtown scene has always been as strong a contribution to world culture as Ribot says. Wonder how long Zorn'll be able to keep The Stone running.

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Re: Oh, goddammit
[info]janet_harvey
2007-05-10 05:36 pm UTC (link)
I remember when Tonic opened - I was kinda surprised to hear it was 9 years old! Apparently the whole neighborhood has changed around it.

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[info]chrislamb42
2007-05-31 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Hey, I remember when you guys were shooting at Accidental. That's when I was still working at Alt.

Alt is gone, but returning: The owners have teamed up with a couple of business partners to open up a more family-friendly joint. They're currently in the midst of renovations. As for Accidental, they'd been on the edge of closing for a pretty long time - if I recall correctly, Craig owed his landlord god knows how much in rent, and was refusing to pay (while screwing the kids that worked for him out of their pay on a regular basis as well, despite already paying them under minimum wage off the books). They were open 24 hours because it kept the landlord from closing them down, or something like that. One way or another he finally found an in and that was that. They relocated to the store front of a drug squat on St. Marks, which only lasted a few months before the city condemned the building. And that, as far as I know, was that.

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[info]janet_harvey
2007-06-07 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Yay, that is good news about Alt! Though I am trying to figure out what "family friendly" would mean to them (other than, of course, a bathroom that wasn't a trash-art-graffiti installation with a roll of toilet paper attached.)

Craig did tell me about his plan to move into the drug squat - I figured the story would probably end that way eventually.

We finished editing GRAVITY btw, email me and I'll hook you up with a DVD, if you like!

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[info]chrislamb42
2007-06-08 12:58 pm UTC (link)
Cleaning up the bathroom is a big part of the make over, along with completely replacing the floor, getting in furniture that doesn't look like it was abused as a child, and actually doing something to curtail the homeless junkies from coming in and insisting on starting fights with the staff or overdosing in the bathroom. It should be fun.

No idea whatever happened to Craig - I heard he's still in the city, but I like to think he's travelling the midwest with a horse and wagon as some sort of snake oil salesman, peddling dreams and the unwanted acid rock collections of others off on the unweary.

Congrats on GRAVITY, by the way, and I'd love a DVD. I'll toss you my address post-haste.

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[info]janet_harvey
2007-06-08 05:33 pm UTC (link)
hahaha. That does seem to be Craig's dark destiny.

I'm a little sad that the junkies will have nowhere to go anymore! And I thought the beaten furniture was part of the charm - but I'm clearly a tourist.

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